In this video, Tiffany McLain, LMFT, psychotherapist and entrepreneur, sits down with Daniel Gaztambide, PsyD, to talk about setting your fees during COVID-19. Tiffany addresses common stories about money that we learn in graduate school, and often our own familial, cultural, and socioeconomic upbringing. We’ll also discuss anxiety and shame around valuing our work, and how to become aware of and challenge those feelings. A thread throughout the interview involves the importance taking care of our emotional and material needs as therapists so that we can care for our patients and communities in turn. Lastly, we’ll discuss how our anxieties around fees fit into the behavioral healthcare system in the U.S. This rich discussion will help you think through your “money matters.”

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Daniel Jose Gaztambide, Psy.D.

Daniel José Gaztambide, PsyD, is the chair of the Professional Practice committee of Division 29. He is the assistant director of clinical training in the department of clinical psychology at the New School for Social Research, and director of the Frantz Fanon Center for Intersectional Psychology. He is the author of the book A People’s History of Psychoanalysis: From Freud to Liberation Psychology, and a psychotherapist in private practice. He was featured in the documentary Psychoanalysis in El Barrio.